Archive for the ‘Pope’ Category
Posted by QB on October 22, 2007
Really don’t have time but US State Department make to write few lines about the hypocrisy of US and its European allies. The US State Department is asking Turkey not to invade Iraq going after Kurd terrorists.
|In Washington, the State Department said the United States has opened a diplomatic “full court press” to urge Turkey not to invade northern Iraq.“In our view, there are better ways to deal with this issue,” spokesman Sean McCormack said, stressing that the United States regards the the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, known by its Kurdish acronym PKK, as a terrorist organization.
There are better ways to deal with terrorism, Really, than why US and its European allies invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. The US and European politicians wants to invade Iran, the Presidential candidate Hilary Clinton even wanted to use limited nuclear weapons in Iran attack, US politicians want to invade Pakistan, Obama promised that he will send US troops into NWFP. Why don’t they try the better ways themselves to solve the issues with Iran.
F*king SOBs. This is all few minutes I can spare right now.
Posted in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda, Al Qaida, Bush, George W. Bush, Iran, Iraq, Middle East, Middle East War, Middle Eastern affairs, Middle Eastern Politics, Pakistan, Pope, Taleban, Taliban, US Politics, War on Terror | 2 Comments »
Posted by QB on October 9, 2007
Pope Benedict XVI open his mouth again to lecture Iran on anti-Semitism. He is the same guy who has, with his stupid statements, created hatred between Christians and Muslims.
|VATICAN CITY – Pope Benedict XVI today targeted Iran as he vowed to help fight anti-Semitism, a top official of the World Jewish Congress said following an audience with the pontiff.“We thanked the Holy Father for everything he did for the Jewish people, and more importantly what he will do,” WJC vice secretary general Maram Stern told AFP.The pope “recognised the question of Iran as an issue of big concern for him,” Stern said, adding that Benedict pledged “to find how the message can be made, through education, to avoid the hatred of the Iranian leadership towards the Jews and Israel.“He expressed his concern over the rise in anti-Semitism. The Holy Father said he was very aware of it (and wants to) find a way to make it less prominent through education,” Stern said.The pontiff said “co-operation between the Jewish people and the Church is a matter that is close to his heart,” Stern said, describing the meeting as “interesting and cordial.”New WJC President Ronald Lauder, who headed the delegation, said that the pope had agreed in principle to host a “joint event” with him when Benedict visits New York next year.
WJC Secretary General Michael Schneider was also present at the audience.Iran’s government vehemently denies charges of anti-Semitism, pointing to the peaceful existence in Iran of a 20,000-strong Jewish community, the largest in the Middle East outside Israel.Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad provoked an international outcry shortly after his election in 2005 when he called for Israel to be “wiped from the map” and also described the Holocaust as a “myth”.He has since toned down his rhetoric but last week he reaffirmed his deeply controversial questioning of the mass slaughter of Jews in World War II and his suggestion that Israel could be moved to arctic North America. Source: Pope cites Iran to curb anti-Semitism
Pope criticizes Hugo Chavez democratically elected popular government repeating the allegations of US and European countries.
|Today, the Pope said, the Church faces the challenges brought by a global economy which “brings with it the risk of vast monopolies and of treating profit as the supreme value.” In Latin America, he added, there is another disquieting trend: “authoritarian forms of government and regimes wedded to certain ideologies that we thought had been superseded.” Here the Pope seemed clearly to be referring to leftist governments such as the Venezuelan regime of Hugo Chavez, who has clashed frequently with Church leaders there.
Pope should explain in detail why questioning Holocaust is such a big sin. There are people who believe that the Holocaust deaths are way too high to be true, all they want to study this historic event in detail which is not illogical drawing so much anger in Europe and US. Look like that Zionists don’t want independent group to study his historic event.
Pope just shut up (Shut up is to0 polite, STFU is appropriate). You are not a person to give advice to Ahmadinejad or as a matter of fact nobody.
Posted in Ahmadinejad, Catholicism, Christianity, Christiano-facists, Iran, Islam, Israel, Jews, Judaism, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Pope, Pope Benedict XVI, Religion | 8 Comments »
Posted by QB on July 25, 2007
Hugo Chavez news are always interesting and this news was reported yesterday is no exception where he called Honduran Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga “imperial clown” replying to his accusations of increasing authoritarianism. Hugo Chavez statements are always blunt without any diplomacy.
“Another parrot of imperialism appeared, this time dressed as a cardinal. That’s to say, another imperialist clown”.
This Cardinal is considered the moderate, is the most prominent Catholic leaders in Americas and could be the possible Pope. Hugo Chavez also called Venezuelan Catholic leaders and “liars” and “perverts” and advice them to stop interfering in politics. Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga will be another joke if selected next Pope after Benedict which will certainly not help Catholic ideology.
The following is lengthy informative article about Hugo Chavez and Bush regime which analyzes the situation fairly.
Where is Venezuela going? Chavez and the meaning of 21st century socialism.
Hugo Chavez is democratically elected very popular President of Venezuela harshly criticized by US and Western Countries media and Bush regime with false propaganda. Hugo Chavez is doing what US should be doing to change the lives of common poor people. I support Hugo Chavez for all his good efforts to improve the lives of common poor people.
Posted in Bush, George W. Bush, Hugo Chavez, Latin America, Politics, Pope, Pope Benedict XVI, South America, US Politics, Venezuela | Leave a Comment »
Posted by QB on May 20, 2007
President Hugo Chavez sought Benedict XVI’s apology for offending native peoples during the pope’s recent attempt to reach out to Latin American Roman Catholics.
“As a head of state, I beg your holiness to apologize to the peoples of our Americas,” said Chavez, speaking late Friday.
“I believe it is the right thing to do.”
Benedict XVI made quite an impression on his first visit to Latin America, home to about half of his flock, when he said last week that “Christianity was not imposed by a foreign culture.”
“Christ was the Savior (America’s natives) silently yearned for,” the pope said in Brazil.
Benedict also called a recent resurgence of pre-Columbian religions “a step backward,” drawing protests from native peoples as far away as Mexico.
Natives in Ecuador also questioned Benedict’s version of events.
“Surely, the pope does not know that representatives of the Catholic Church of those times, with honorable exceptions, were accomplices, deceivers and beneficiaries of one of the most horrific genocides of all humanity,” the Confederation of Indigenous Nations said in a statement Saturday.
The pope’s statements were still on Chavez’s mind Saturday: “How could you say that they came — when they came with arquebuses (firearms) to evangelize — with no sort of imposition?”
The conquest of Latin America by Europeans “was something far worse than the Holocaust in the Second World War and no one can deny it, not even your Holiness can deny the Holocaust of the natives of our land.”
“Christ arrived much later to America; he did not arrive with (Christopher) Columbus.
That was the arrival of the anti-Christ,” said Chavez, whose speeches frequently rely on Christian teachings and baseball metaphors.
Chavez and the Roman Catholic Church have had rough relations, which have improved in the past year, with new Caracas archbishop Jorge Urosa.
Chavez has met once with Benedict, in May 2006.
Source : Venezuela’s Chavez seeks papal mea culpa for native slaps
Whenever Pope opens his holy mouth he say something stupid. Pope Benedict handlers must keep his mouth taped which will save Catholic Church plenty of embarrassments.
Posted in Bible, Catholicism, Christianity, Hugo Chavez, Latin America, Pope, Pope Benedict XVI, Religion, South America, Venezuela | 6 Comments »
Posted by QB on October 13, 2006
Pope Benedict XVI has added an explanatory note on his quote on which he included in his speech. The damage is already done your holiness and you do not understand this because you are blinded with your religious beliefs.
The quote of Manuel II “”Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”
The following is the explanation given by his old his highness.
“In the Muslim world, this quotation has unfortunately been taken as an expression of my personal position, thus arousing understandable indignation,” the note said.
“I hope that the reader of my text can see immediately that this sentence does not express my personal view of the Quran, for which I have the respect due to the holy book of a great religion,”. “In quoting the text of the Emperor Manuel II, I intended solely to draw out the essential relationship between faith and reason. On this point I am in agreement with Manuel II, but without endorsing his polemic,” he said.
Pope is really not a very intelligent person or maybe his age has taken away his rational thinking. You quoted Manuel II as the part of the speech and you have the same understanding that Islam has brought nothing but evil and inhumane and is spread using sword. Read your statement again and come up with some different approach.
Pope Benedict XVI you are no better than any other religious scholar of Islam or Judaism who preaches hatred in the name of religion. I have no respect for any such scholar no matter what religious belief they teaches and preaches. Shut up now and don’t open your mouth again. Keep smiling and waving hand from the window.
Posted in Catholicism, Christianity, Christiano-facists, Islam, Muslim World, Politics, Pope, Pope Benedict XVI | 5 Comments »
Posted by QB on October 12, 2006
There are many headline news related to violence killing of a Catholic Priest for Pope’s comments. Bush and Blair regime trying to discredit the new report of 665,000 Iraqi civilian death since these regime illegal criminal invasion and occupation of Iraq. There is one news that Sunni and Shias clerics will call for sectarian peace from Mecca.
The news about killing some Iraqi Catholic Priest is very very very sad ignorant act of terrorism. The murdered Priest had no authority on Pope’s statements or his views, this poor guy was in no position to ask Pope Benedict to apologise for his comments. The people who had murdered this Priest for the love of God are not actually God’s people and they are not the protector of God’s religions. These murderers are the ignorant fools and aides of Devil. I have deep sympathy for the Iraqi Catholic Christians for the brutal murder of their Priest. May God provide comfort to forget this loss.
North Korea nuclear threat is main topic on all mainstream media talk shows and news and Republicans are trying their best to frame it as the failure of Bill Clinton administration like Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Bush regime with all its arrogance is trying to impose strict sanctions on North Korea which will escalate the problem because Kim Jong Il government want the international community to ease of some of their country hardships with financial aid. China has backed off from imposing hard sanctions on North Korea and this is the right approach in bringing the matter to resolve peacefully. Russia and China on Thursday opposed tough sanctions the U.S. wants to impose against North Korea this week for its claimed nuclear test, saying they want time to work out a more moderate response to Pyongyang’s nuclear brinkmanship. After several hours of closed-door negotiations late in the day, Russia and China — the two Security Council nations closest to Pyongyang — reported good progress.
I did mentioned the sectarian violence couple of weeks back which can immediately be stopped by one statement coming out of Grand Satan Sistani mouth. The call for peace from Mecca will not really do any good for this sectarian violence because Grand Satan Sistani silence is kind of approval for the Shias to kill Sunnis. The man who is treated like god among Iraqi Shias had not spoken since Muqtada Al Sadr incident and he intervened because of political reasons which were to stop the growing political support for this young Shia cleric.
Shias must bring this Grand Satan Sistani out in the public with force and ask him to call for peace between Sunnis and Shias.
Interesting news from Britain.
Army chief declares war on Blair: ‘We must quit Iraq soon’
US government is delaying the departure of thousands of troops from Iraq while speeding up the arrival of new troops to keep the level of troops higher. This is Bush regime effort to bring down the sectarian violence and the present troops are 142,000 in Iraq. Armed attacks on U.S. soldiers and Iraqis in Baghdad have increased by 43 percent since midsummer, despite an ongoing American-led campaign to secure individual neighborhoods, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq said Thursday.
Posted in Ahmadinejad, Al Qaeda, Al Qaida, Ayatollah Sistani, Britain, Bush, China, EU/Europe, George W. Bush, Iraq, Middle East, North Korea, Osama Bin Laden, Politics, Pope, Pope Benedict XVI, Russia, Shia Islam, Shias, Sunni, Sunni Islam, US Politics, War on Terror | 1 Comment »
Posted by QB on October 8, 2006
“May Christian couples build a family that is open to life and capable of handling, united, the many, complex challenges of our times,” Benedict said as he delivered his traditional Sunday blessing from his window overlooking St. Peter’s Square.
“There is a need for families who won’t let themselves be swept away by modern cultural currents that are inspired by hedonism and relativism,” the pontiff added.”
What I understand is that Pope wants to go back 2000 years back social and cultural values. Why these religious nuts always against modernization?
China Japan are getting very uncomfortable with Kim Jong-Il nuclear weapon test. What is the problem? Why can’t North Korea had nuclear weapons for defence purpose?
Reports and early speculations is that Venezuela will win the UN Security Council seat for two years by defeating Guatemala US backed country. Washington also try to bring Chile into the race to stop Venezuela getting elected. This will be huge win for Hugo Chavez and we need someone like Hugo Chavez to standup against US in Security Council.
Posted in Christianity, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jong-Il, North Korea, Politics, Pope, Pope Benedict XVI, Religion, South America, Venezuela | 1 Comment »
Posted by QB on October 2, 2006
Just put this on hold because it will offend 2.4 Billion Christians, 13.6 Million Jews and 1.6 Billions Sunnis Shi’ites (Sunnis Shi’ites off shoot branches like Ismailis, Ahmadis, Alawis included).
I might put it all together sometime in future meantime just the heading is enough to think and try by to change the mental approach towards religion and God.
God to me is very liberal, equipped with the most advanced technology which are capable of recording our electronic thinking pulses. God who has created this universe is the most intelligent all knowing Merciful who do not want us to hate people for their religious beliefs.
There is no such place as sacred land or God’s land on earth, the fact is this whole earth is sacred we are only here for a very short time. The main cause of the conflicts are man made who control the minds and hearts of majority by their self appointed position as the protectors and owners of God and religions. We all know them as Mullahs, Ayatollahs, Muftis, Imams, Rabbis, Reverends, Pastors, Pope who are the main source of creating divisions and hatred for their financial benefits.
Posted in Al Qaeda, Al Qaida, Bible, Catholicism, Christianity, Evangelism, Imams, Israel, Jews, Judaism, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Middle East, Mullahs, New Testament, Old Testament, Politics, Pope, Religion, Reverends, Shia Islam, Sunni Islam | 9 Comments »
Posted by QB on September 29, 2006
There is nothing new in Ayman Zawahiri tape which blasted Bush and Pope Benedict XVI. Actually get bored of these Christian religious fanatics vs Islamic religious fanatics. These both sides Bush Christian fundamentalists and Osama Bin Laden Islam fundamentalists are the same two sides of same coin. The victims of their fight are innocent people children women elderly hard economic hardship to survive for basic needs of life.
The following is what Zawahiri said in Video message.
As-Sahab, al-Qaeda’s multimedia production arm, issued today, Friday, September 29, 2006, a 17:51 minute video speech featuring Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri and titled: “Bush, the Pope of the Vatican, Darfur, and the Crusader Wars”. He appears in two scenes: one, subtitled in English, with an office-setup background with a lamp, flag bearing “No God, but Allah”, and a cannon; the other is without a background, and depicts Zawahiri dressed entirely in white, without subtitles.
To U.S. President George W. Bush, Zawahiri brands him a “deceitful charlation” and liar, and questions: “why don’t you tell them how many million citizens of America and it’s allies you intend to kill in search of the imaginary victory and in breathless pursuit of the mirage towards which you are driving your people’s sons in order to increase your profits?” He questions his motives for imitating the War in Iraq, ridiculing the false pretexts under which it was conducted. To this end he cites the purported links of Saddam Hussein to al-Qaeda, and the presence of weapons of mass destruction. He also addresses the capture of Khalid Shaikh Muhammad and questions that if it helped in the “war on terror” then “why are your troops retreating in secret from the south and east of Afghanistan?… Bush…be aware that the liberation of our captives is a debt on our shoulders which we must fulfill”. Other individuals who have been captured, such as Ramzi Yusef, Omar Abdul Rahman (the “Blind Sheikh”) and Abu al-Faraj al-Libi are also cited.
In the Arabic portion, Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri discusses the issue of the Pope Benedict XVI’s slanderous comments to Islam and the Prophet Muhammad, by prefacing such attacks as beginning with the Satanic Verses of Salmon Rushdie, followed by desecration of the Qur’an at Guantanamo Bay, and banning of the hijab in French schools. He states that the current pope is reminiscent of Pope Urban II, who “provoked the people of Europe to fight the Muslims” in the Crusades. Zawahiri disregards Christinaity due to its “supersitions” and alleged irrationality, but avers that Muslims are not enemies of Jesus as Pope Urban II claimed. On the pope’s comments directly, Zawahiri adds: “if Benedict attacked us, we will respond to his insults with good things. We will call upon him, and all of the Christians to become Muslims who do not recognize the Trinity or the crucifixion, and say that Allah united with the human.”
Zawahiri called Bush what he acctually is and it is a known fact. Nothing New. Anybody interested in Iraq and Afghanistan wars read my posts on the subjects. There are plenty of them and my analysis is that US is not winning in Iraq neither winning in Afghanistan.
Posted in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda, Al Qaida, Ayman Al Zawahiri, Bush, Christianity, George W. Bush, Osama Bin Laden, Politics, Pope, Pope Benedict XVI, War on Terror | 8 Comments »
Posted by QB on September 26, 2006
Venezuela’s Chavez says pope should be more careful with his words CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) – Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez urged Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday to be more careful with his words, saying he found the pontiff’s recent remarks regarding Islam and holy war “worrisome.” “I think the Vatican should clarify the position much better because I believe many doubts still linger among our Muslim brothers of the world,” said Chavez, whose statements were broadcast on state-run television. “Those who have so much weight with the word” shouldn’t be “saying something that could be misinterpreted and throw more fuel on the fire,” added Chavez, who visited the pope at the Vatican in May. Benedict has apologized for the angry response to a speech he gave last week, quoting a medieval text characterizing some of the Prophet Muhammad’s teachings as “evil and inhuman.”
Hugo Chavez intelligent, true without any political or religious biased or diplomacy.
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Posted by QB on September 23, 2006
This provides a comprehensive analysis of the likely nature of US or Israeli military action that would be intended to disable Iran’s nuclear capabilities. It outlines both the immediate consequences in terms of loss of human life, facilities and infrastructure, and also the likely Iranian responses, which would be extensive.
An attack on Iranian nuclear infrastructure would signal the start of a protracted military confrontation that would probably grow to involve Iraq, Israel and Lebanon, as well as the USA and Iran. The report concludes that a military response to the current crisis in relations with Iran is a particularly dangerous option and should not be considered further. Alternative approaches must be sought, however difficult these may be.
Read the paper online IRAN: CONSEQUENCES OF A WAR – Paul Rogers
The other factor is radical Christians who are so enthusiastic about Middle East wars because according to their religious belief it will bring Jesus back and they will have their rapture. The most fanatical Christian who are in support of wars in Middle East included Rev. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Pastor Hagee and maybe the new Pope.
This is my own analysis of regarding US air strike or invasion of Iran. Consequences of Iran Air Strike.
Ahmadinejad must have analysed the situation better then me as I find him to be very intelligent talking to journalists.
Posted in Afghanistan, Ahmadinejad, Bush, Christianity, George W. Bush, Iran, Iran Uranium Enrichment, Iraq, Israel, Lebanon, Middle East, Politics, Pope, Religion, USA | 3 Comments »
Posted by QB on September 22, 2006
Christians terrorists executed in Indonesia.
The three Christian militants were executed by an Indonesian police firing squad early on Friday amid tight security in Palu, the capital of Central Sulawesi province.
Fabianus Tibo, Marianus Riwu and Dominggus Silva had been sentenced to death in 2001, after being found guilty of leading a mob in an attack that killed more than 200 people at an Islamic boarding school during clashes in the province between Muslims and Christians.
The trio had originally been scheduled to die in August, but the executions were postponed after demonstrations by thousands of Indonesians and an appeal from Pope Benedict.
Violence has since erupted in Silva’s hometown of Atambua in West Timor when thousands of Christians protested.
Falwell said President Bush should “blow them (the terrorists) all away in the name of the Lord.”
Pat Robertson radical Christian, these Christianofacists are dangerous for world peace. There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he’s going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.
You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. Pat Robertson Fatwa to kill Hugo Chavez.
Do the Christianity teaches hatred and killing? Is Christianity a peaceful religion? Why Christians are so violently protesting against the killings of these murderers and terrorists? Why did Pope appeal in support of Christian terrorists?
Christianity is as much violent religion as Islam and Judaism.
I could have written this all in very different way but the problem the majority of people have no knowledge and they try to blame all the violence on Islam without even trying to understand the true causes of violence. Also I know the cause of all these violence protests which broke out in Indonesia. Give me one good reason when so many millions are spreading hatred against Islam and Muslims including Pope himself the holy father of Catholics and the Pastors and Reverends why should I be the only once to stick to my peaceful way of tolerance peace and love.
The State run terrorism has a very strong support of radical Christians religious scholars including Pope. They don’t speak against the killing of innocent children, women, elderly, unarmed civilains in Iraq and Afghanistan. The mojority of the Christians justify all these killings linking it to 9/11 where they lost 2740 lives. Christians believe they got the license to kill all the Muslims. These Christians also ask where are the moderate Muslims who don’t come out and speak against the terrorism without knowing that Mainstream media have no interest of covering the message of peaceful Muslims. The Mainstream Media made better financial gains with promoting the negative news about Islam and Muslims.
BTW where are the moderate Christians who do not come forward to speak against the US invasions destructions and killings.
Posted in Afghanistan, Catholicism, Christianity, Christiano-facists, Hugo Chavez, Indonesia, Iraq, Middle East, Muslim World, Politics, Pope, Terrorism, War on Terror | 2 Comments »
Posted by QB on September 22, 2006
Pakistani clerics, religious leaders demand pope’s removal.
This is the most stupid news headline which catch my attention. These Sunni Shi’itie clerics are dumb and stupid who open their mouths and nothing come out of it but garbage. This is absurd to call for the removal of Pope, don’t they know that Pope is elected as the spiritual leader of Catholic for lifetime. Pope is the holy father to Catholics who they love to follow his all actions and words.
I have a demand of my own to remove Grand Satan Sistani from his Ayatollah position. Ayatollah, for those who don’t know means the sign of God. The is the highest religious position someone can hold with Shi’ite Religious Hierarchy. Ayatollahs are just like mini Pope with Shi’ites because there are numerous for each region and country. These Sunnis and Shi’ites religious scholars are Fatwas producing machines goes into deep silence when the violence is sectarian. Hypocrisy.
I demand to remove Grand Satan Sistani from Ayatollah position due to his criminal silence over sectarian violence and killings. I did not heard a word from this Grand Satan who can stop all these killings simply with issuing a statement. Grand Satan silence is kind of approval for Shi’ites to keep killing Sunnis so they can have the complete control of Iraq.
Pope stupidity bring us to new division hatred against each other. What have you done you old man, you must have lost all your thinking abilities clogged due to your age.
These Sunnis Shi’ite religious scholars have to lean a lot from Western Democracies and Christianity how to kill people in the name of God and religion with politely with smile on their faces.
Posted in Ayatollah Sistani, Catholicism, Christianity, Fatwas, Iraq, Islam, Middle East, Pakistan, Politics, Pope, Religion, Shia Islam, Sunni Islam | 2 Comments »
Posted by QB on September 21, 2006
Bill Clinton was on Larry King last night on CNN. Bill Clinton was very impressive with flowing answers on all the subjects Larry asked him. Larry asked Bill Clinton regarding Pope’s comments on Islam.
Bill Clinton replied with diplomacy because he is very intelligent person and an excellent diplomat who do not wanted to alienate the Catholics voters in US and all around the world. Bill Clinton has the unique style of talking where he disagree with his opponents without getting them to feel like they were insulted and that still make him the most likable President of USA in recent history.
CLINTON: Well, first I think we ought to take him at his word, that he’s sorry if it was interpreted that way. I think he really was trying to say what a lot of serious people believe, that the religious aspect of Islam has always had a political and military component.
But I think it was unfortunate, as he said, because right now there are all these moderates, both moderate Muslim clerics, the kind of people that gathered around King Abdullah in Jordan not so long ago to say that Islam is not a bloodthirsty religion, Islam does not condone terror and the killing of innocents.
There are all these people trying to reclaim their religion from those who have a very selective reading and teaching of the Koran’s verses about aggression, military aggression. They basically teach, in my view, a distorted view of what is in the Koran and what Islam stands for.
And we — every time one of us, particularly someone as august as the pope says something like that, we make the task of the moderates in the Muslim world more difficult. That is, these people that are asking young people to strap on bombs or carry liquid explosives on planes or whatever and, you know, engage in murder in God’s name are really asking them to practice politics.
The leaders of all these groups are not strapping on the bombs and blowing themselves up. They’re trying to talk some kid into doing it. In order to do it, you have to believe two things, normally. You have to believe, number one, you get a free ticket to heaven; and number two that the people you’re striking are profoundly evil, are subhuman. But behind all that, it’s not about religion at all.
It’s a political deal, but there have been sects of Islam that have trained and treated and educated people who were living in poverty, had legitimate grievances, to believe that their faith legitimizes killing non-combatants, including completely innocent civilians.
So we made the task of all those moderates harder, we make it harder, with things like the Danish cartoons or the pope’s comments. He did issue an apology, and I think we ought to go on.
I also think that we need moderate Muslims to say look, in the West, people insult each other and their faiths and their politics and their persons all the time. Look what President Chavez just said about President Bush. You know, we — and we try to teach our children to get over it.
I mean, you’ve got kids. You know, one of the most important things you can teach a child is that not everything that happens to you will be nice. But you are in control of how you respond to everything that happens to you. You do not have to respond with violence or anger or hatred or bitterness or demeaning conduct and you cannot be diminished by what someone else says about you.
This is my response to Bill Clinton is that the Islam is hijacked by Sunnis and Shi’ites two main factions of Islam who unfortunately are in majority. All this violence is due to their lack of knowledge about the message of Qur’an. Sunnis and Shi’ites are very much like these Catholics who believe that hating each other belief is the best way to follow their faiths. These Sunnis and Shi’ites have another common thing which they share with Catholics and that is try to convert everyone to their own beliefs. I can say all this without any diplomacy because don’t fear to lose my vote bank. We have to work hard to change the mentality of Sunnis and Shi’ites as well as Catholics.
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Posted by QB on September 21, 2006
According to Delia Gallagher that this iss the second time Pope Benedict explained his quote of medieval emperor who described Islam as violent and inhuman. But it wasn’t the apology some Muslim leaders were hoping for.Pope said. I did not in any way wish to make my own negative words which were pronounced by the medieval emperor in this dialogue. And its contained polemic did not express my personal convictions.
Pope is killing the Religious Harmony developed by Pope John Paul II. The following is good animiated cartoon on Al Jazeera.
The Vatican has been attempting serious damage control, printing the pope’s regrets in Arabic on the front page of the Vatican newspaper. And instructing its representatives to explain the pope’s words to Muslim leaders. I believe Muslims leaders are not so stupid that they need explaination of Pope’s words.
This is what Andrew Sallivan said on Anderson Cooper last night replying Anderson’s question. Well, he’s telling what he thinks is the truth. Which is that Islam and Christianity are based in very different ideas of God. And, as he understands it, and that’s what, regardless of this inflammatory quote, what he was really saying, is that Christianity is based in the Greek notion of logos, of reason, and Islam is not.
And therefore, it’s very hard to have a dialogue. And therefore, the only way you can have a dialogue is between cultures, not faiths. That’s quite a radical thing for him to say. It’s certainly not in any way diplomatic.
It is true that Muslims pray to the same One God of Abraham, Moses, Noah and Catholics have differnt gods and they are more close to Paganism rather than following the true message of Jesus Christ. They pray to Marry who they call the Mother of God, they pray to Jesus as God, they pray to their Saints and they pray to Pope as the Holy Father. Pope is right that we can’t compare Islam and Catholic religion but it is arrogant to claim that they are only one who are on the right path. Pope did said nothing about the Judaism God who are praying to the same God of Muslims.
Andrew Sallivan futher added that Pope is saying that the Muslim world has a problem with violence and compulsion and religion, and they respond by threatening violence against him, then it doesn’t exactly disprove his point.
The problem is that the pope is really intellectual. He’s always a theologian. If you read his writings across the decades, he’s always been a very provocative. Pope is not a diplomat.
Pope can’t be a intellectual. The comments shows his stupidity and radical views about Catholic religion were no way near to any intelligence.
The truth that Catholics are radical who believe in compulsion promoting their religion with missionaries with their fanatical message salvation is only through Jesus. The god, son of god and the holy spirit.
What Qur’an say about compulsion?
2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. Qur’an Chapter Two.
Andrew Salliven also said that Pope is not a diplomat. It’s also courageous of him to say if Islam is fomenting — even if it’s an extreme version of it, even if it’s perversion of Islam — if it’s fomenting violence and Islam has to come to terms with that, it isn’t up to the west to apologize for that. It’s up to Islam to deal with it. Courageous.Anderson Cooper pointed that there was an awful lot of stuff that went on, the inquisition, lots of things, which he never sort of mentioned.
Andrew Sullivan reply. Yes. And he’s very good at that, of course. I mean, he’s bypassed the church’s own murderous history. I mean, what Christianity, what the crusades did to Muslims, and indeed, what Christianity to one another in the Middle Ages and indeed during the Reformation is just as violent, if not much more violent, than what we’re seeing today in the Muslim world.
Pope that means is a hypocrite by brining the stupid quotes and misleading information about Islam and Muslims. Catholics and all religions who bring the death punishment for anyone leaving Islam is infact taken from Old Testament and I am sure Pope have read and understand the Bible.
Death Punishment for Apostate?
Sunni and Shias religious scholars are stupid to have this punishment writen in their Sharia Laws associated with false story attributed to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
This is my questions to Sunni and Shias religious scholars.
When will you realize that you are following the punishment laws of Old Testament?
Is this not the right time to revise all these laws?
Is there really punishment for the person who is leaving Islam?
Yes the punishment will be with God on the judgement day and He maybe punish that person in this world.
16:106 Any one who, after accepting faith in God, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith – but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from God, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.
Sunnis and Shias mental slaves to their religious scholars when you all will open your mind to see the truth.
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